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- Note: The following is an excerpt from Grant Cameron and T. Scott
- Crain Jr.'s research paper entitled, "UFOs, MJ-12 AND THE
- GOVERNMENT". It is a transcript of a phone conversation.
- I have personally spoken with Steinman, and received assurances
- that Walker's replies are accurate. The transcript was made
- within 10 minutes of the phone call, and was not taken from
- an audio tape.
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- - Tom Mickus <<UFONET I>> 8/12/89
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- This telephone interview took place on August 30, 1987 between
- William Steinman of La Mirada, California, and Dr. Eric Walker
- of State College, Pennsylvania.
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- Walker: Hello.
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- Steinman: Hello...this is William Steinman of Los Angeles,
- California. I am calling in reference to the meetings
- that you attended at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base
- in around 1949-1950, concerning the military recovery
- of Flying Saucers, and bodies of occupants.
- Dr. Robert I. Sarbacher (now deceased) related this to
- me. You and Sarbacher were both consultants to D.R.B.
- in 1950, you were secretary 1950-51.
-
- Walker: Yes, I attended meetings concerning that subject matter;
- why do you want to know about that?
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- Steinman: I believe it is very important subject. After all, we
- we are talking about the actual recovery of a flying
- saucer (spacecraft) not built or constructed on this
- earth! And furthermore, we are talking about bodies of
- the occupants from the craft who were analyzed human-like
- beings not of this world!
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- Walker: So...what's there to get all excited about? Why all the
- concern?
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- Steinman: I am not excited, just very concerned. Here we are
- talking about a subject that the U.S. Government
- officially denies, even going to the extent of actually
- debunking the evidence and discrediting the witnesses.
- Then you sit there and say, "What's there to get all
- excited about?" and "why all the concern."
- Dr. Vannevar Bush, Dr. D.W. Bronk, and others thought it
- was very important and were concerned enough to classify
- the subject ABOVE TOP SECRET, in fact the most highly
- classified subject in the U.S. Government!!
- Did you ever hear of the "MJ-12 Group" and there "Project
- Majestic-12" which was classified as TOP_SECRET/MAJIC?
- I have a copy of President elect D.D. Eisenhower's
- briefing paper on that project, dated November 18, 1952.
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- Walker: Yes, I know of MJ-12. I have known of them for 40 years.
- I believe that you're chasing after and fighting with
- windmills!!
-
- Steinman: Why do you say that?
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- Walker: You are delving into a area that you can do absolutely
- nothing about. So, why get involved with it or all
- concerned about it? Why don't you just leave it alone
- and drop it? Forget about it!!
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- Steinman: I am not going to drop it. I am going all the way with
- this!!
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- Walker: Then...when you find out everything about it, what are
- you going to do?
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- Steinman: I believe that this entire matter has to be brought to
- the public's attention. The people should know the
- truth!!
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- Walker: It's not worth it! Leave it alone!!
-
- Steinman: Can you remember any of the details pertaining to the
- recovery operations and subsequent analysis of the
- saucers and bodies?
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- Walker: I am sure that I have notes concerning those meetings
- at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. I would have to
- dig them out and read them over in order to jog my
- memory.
-
- Steinman: If I write you a letter, will you please answer in as
- much detail as you can remember. Furthermore, could
- you please xerox those notes for me and send me a copy?
-
- Walker: I might. At least I will keep your letter, will dig
- out my notes, and contemplate answering. That's the
- best I can say for now.
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- Steinman: Well, Dr. Walker, I will write a letter as soon as
- possible. Thanks for your valuable time. Good-bye.
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- Walker: Goodbye.
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